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Old 5th May 2008, 09:17 PM   #11
 
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So basically you just fill this with water (I presume distilled), collect the gases and feed them into the inlet and let it rip?
Distilled water and a akalaine or acid to improve conductivity. Pass current through it and it cracks the water into Hydrogen Oxygen Hydrogen or HHO or Hydroxy.
One guy I was going to buy a kit off turned an old 1.2lt car miles from 33MPG to 52MPG on the highway.. He said 50% improvement.
You get upto 15% from the unit it self and the other improvement was made in carby tuning to suit the additional gas into the engine...
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Hi there Clint,

I seem to recall that you are situated in NSW, correct me if I am wrong.
Regarding HHO generators, with the amount of people looking into this concept, I am surprised that there is not a kit available for purchase. I have read that there are kits available on ebay (2 different units), but I have not been able to find them. Have you read any instructions for converting your motor vehical into a water burning hybrid? I have a 1992 Estima Lucida that I would like to convert.

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Hi there Clint,

I seem to recall that you are situated in NSW, correct me if I am wrong.
Regarding HHO generators, with the amount of people looking into this concept, I am surprised that there is not a kit available for purchase. I have read that there are kits available on ebay (2 different units), but I have not been able to find them. Have you read any instructions for converting your motor vehical into a water burning hybrid? I have a 1992 Estima Lucida that I would like to convert.

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Hi there Allan, yeah Ive researched the project over some considerable time and yes there are kits available. The kits do come at a cost considering the developers costs for materials and knowledge and construction would obviously vouch for their highish cost.

I almost purchased( did purchase but they were too slow in crunching the transaction before I spent more money on visa debit card). I have a 60% complete project that needs some more time and enginuity put into finishing it. It just felt easier to get a complete kit that just needed installation.

Most kits promise upto 15% improvements in mileage but often fall short.

The HOH cells 1.5lt/min kit came in at $800AUD. I did line up the money but as I said they were too slow in removing it( about 2 or 3 weeks)

Im currently trying other avenues for mileage improvements. Aero mods are working a treat. The ceramic should work well plus the lighter drivetrain. No sads, lighter flywheel for my auto plus lower slip torque convertor.

Once back together, and tested positive I will then chase the hydrogen setup. Current best is a 7.98lt.100km or 36mpg with aeromods on a bad engine.
Yes and I live in abbotosford Sydney NSW

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Evening Clint,

You lost me from Aero mods are working a treat.
I did purchase "run your car on water" instructions, have not been able to read it all yet but am finding that it is not quite that easy to read and understand without a 2nd or 3rd read, also, the average person would not have the facilities and were with all to complete the project.
I have viewed several clips on YouTube relating to the Power Tube, these look more like what the average person would be easily capable of doing
without to much trouble or expence, have you seen them and can you comment.

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Has anyone tried the Water4Gas (add .com to access the website) for their Estima? This seems like a low cost solution to what you're trying to achieve here.
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Has anyone tried the Water4Gas (add .com to access the website) for their Estima? This seems like a low cost solution to what you're trying to achieve here.

A lot of companies will sell you the plans quite cheaply, they may even provide kits but most come at a cost and water4gas is the same thing that Im doing.

Crack water into hydrogen oxygen and hydrogen for engine ingestion.
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A lot of companies will sell you the plans quite cheaply, they may even provide kits but most come at a cost and water4gas is the same thing that Im doing.

Crack water into hydrogen oxygen and hydrogen for engine ingestion.
he was talking of using a coil for his reaction , and i was wondering if they do a stainless slinky spring??
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he was talking of using a coil for his reaction , and i was wondering if they do a stainless slinky spring??
If you live in a bungalow then a slinky would be useless
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Default HHO Generators

In the "run your car on water" instruction manual, they use a coil as well as electrodes in the generator.They each produce a different forms of hydrogen, I seem to recall that the hydrogen from the coil slows the burning rate and increases the octain level.
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IT WORKS!

well we know it does but it worked when i tried it..

all i did was get two test probes and put them on my psu.
whacked the psu up to 40v@2a and put the probes in clean water and it bubbled like hell.. i was well impressed..

id deffo make one cos it looks simple enough for eben me to do if i could get hold of the quality of stainless but i dont think i can.
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