Fuel Fluidity, Mix and Temperatures.

davee · 15th July 2008, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mr mince

Been towing the trailer tent with an unmixed 80/20 veg/unleaded although I forgot to take my veggie boost with me. The power loss without the veggie boost is noticable but not that bad as long as you keep the right side of 75

I'm only 54 so I have 21 years to go ha ha

Blobby · 15th July 2008, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by davee

Very interesting experiment.Just one question what damage does veg oil do to the fuel pump exactly?

Makes it leak

Timberwolf · 16th July 2008, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by davee

Very interesting experiment.Just one question what damage does veg oil do to the fuel pump exactly?

As veg oil is thicker than diesel, more pressure is built up pumping it through at high oil to diesel mixes.........50/50 works with no problems all year...80/20 can be run in summer depending on how good your seals are, but could be to much for the seals in winter.

davee · 16th July 2008, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Timberwolf

As veg oil is thicker than diesel, more pressure is built up pumping it through at high oil to diesel mixes.........50/50 works with no problems all year...80/20 can be run in summer depending on how good your seals are, but could be to much for the seals in winter.

That might be the reason why I have developed fuel leaks then,thanks for your help

davee · 24th July 2008, 12:50 PM

Timber,I ran my bus back on pure diesel and the leak has stopped,Im thinking of going down the 90/10 veg /petrol trail what do you think?

Timberwolf · 25th July 2008, 11:12 AM

its just a matter of trail and error as to how much pressure your own seals will take. I'd start in this weather at 75/25, if your seals are OK then try higher ratios. If they start leaking the back the mix down.

Mixing petrol into the oil 10/90 and leaving it to stand for a few days will also help, as it breaks down the thickness of the oil, and then I myself use the mix at 75/25 diesel, nice and runny....

davee · 25th July 2008, 07:18 PM

Thanks Timber,all info is appreciated.Will let you all know how things go.

davee · 6th August 2008, 12:50 PM

Everything OK at the moment,engine seems quieter

Timberwolf · 7th August 2008, 08:14 AM

My best mix for my engine seems to be at the moment, in this weather..20 lt oil to 1ltr petrol leave to thin down, then add 10 ltr Diesel.....so give or take a bit its a 66/33 mix.......come the colder weather its back to a 50/50 mix.

Every car is different and every driving style as well........I'm a slow easy on the throttle driver.......so maybe thats why mine is not happy with the higher oil levels........a faster driver who keeps his engine hotter, could well find he can run a higher percentage of an oil to diesel ratio.

Francis · 9th August 2008, 12:23 PM

I like to use about 45liters of veg with about 5 glugs of petrol in per 15liter container, once that is added to the tank after standing for a few days i add £5-£10 worth of diesel and keep adding diesel if poor cold starting and idling occur, add diesel till it runs OK.

Anyone know how much 5 glugs is?

25th July 2008, 11:12 AM	#36 (permalink)
Timberwolf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Warrington Posts: 1,063	its just a matter of trail and error as to how much pressure your own seals will take. I'd start in this weather at 75/25, if your seals are OK then try higher ratios. If they start leaking the back the mix down. Mixing petrol into the oil 10/90 and leaving it to stand for a few days will also help, as it breaks down the thickness of the oil, and then I myself use the mix at 75/25 diesel, nice and runny.... __________________ Per ardua ad astra "Through Adversity to the Stars".

7th August 2008, 08:14 AM	#39 (permalink)
Timberwolf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Warrington Posts: 1,063	My best mix for my engine seems to be at the moment, in this weather..20 lt oil to 1ltr petrol leave to thin down, then add 10 ltr Diesel.....so give or take a bit its a 66/33 mix.......come the colder weather its back to a 50/50 mix. Every car is different and every driving style as well........I'm a slow easy on the throttle driver.......so maybe thats why mine is not happy with the higher oil levels........a faster driver who keeps his engine hotter, could well find he can run a higher percentage of an oil to diesel ratio. __________________ Per ardua ad astra "Through Adversity to the Stars".

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24th July 2008, 12:50 PM	#35 (permalink)
davee Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Cadishead.Manchester Posts: 70	Timber,I ran my bus back on pure diesel and the leak has stopped,Im thinking of going down the 90/10 veg /petrol trail what do you think?

25th July 2008, 07:18 PM	#37 (permalink)
davee Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Cadishead.Manchester Posts: 70	Thanks Timber,all info is appreciated.Will let you all know how things go.

6th August 2008, 12:50 PM	#38 (permalink)
davee Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Cadishead.Manchester Posts: 70	Everything OK at the moment,engine seems quieter

9th August 2008, 12:23 PM	#40 (permalink)
Francis Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: N.W.Kent. Posts: 44	I like to use about 45liters of veg with about 5 glugs of petrol in per 15liter container, once that is added to the tank after standing for a few days i add £5-£10 worth of diesel and keep adding diesel if poor cold starting and idling occur, add diesel till it runs OK. Anyone know how much 5 glugs is?