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Old 9th September 2008, 09:57 PM   #1
 
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hi guys

im thinking of fitting hydrogen bottles to my estima, saw this on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hydrogen-cell-...d=p3911.c0.m14

any thoughts on this or has anyone done this.

your views/help is always appreciated


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Old 9th September 2008, 11:35 PM   #2
 
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cheaper to make your own cell, looking into doing mine & paulus the woodknome has done his
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i haven't got the foggiest idea as to make them, id rather buy one and stick it in the bus.

let me know how you get on mate.

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Old 10th September 2008, 10:42 PM   #4
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I have actually bought a kit from New Zealand agent for water4gas.com, interesting agent with scientific background and a real eco enthusiast with his whole house designed around self produced el;electricity etc and two cars converted to HHO, have a look at his site Water For Petrol

Main delay for me is with small inspection panel uner seat of estima finding the right vacumn to manifold to tap into, probably need a workshop diagram, I will advise progress when I do it.

Update, tapped into air intake (after the air cleaner) and after several fills results appear to be: Long distance increase from 9.52 kilometers per litre (27 MPG) to 10.85 kpl (31 MPG = 14%+) and short distance increase from 8.13 kpl (23 MPG) to 8.9 kpl (25.4 MPG = 9.5%+) this is without any electronic modification

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HHO HYDROGEN GENERATOR ELECTROLYSER KIT on eBay, also, Solar Panels, Gadgets, Consumer Electronics (end time 11-Sep-08 16:06:12 BST)

i am looking at this, going to speak to my brother in law, see how it is doing, he works for honda now looking at alty ways to help the petrolelium corps
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where does the hydrogen get injected into.
is it the same as lpg kit for diesel?
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fit the hydrogen pipe into the airbox or intake pipe as this is low pressure area and allows the gas to be mixed in with the air before reaching the turbo, after the turbo there is increased pressure so you would end up pressuring the tank to get any gas to enter the system, and you don't really want to be driving round with a pressurised tank of hydroxy gas ............Owen
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i think ill make one i am interested now
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Heres a link to the man that has inspired me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxjxT4zXIco&feature=user There are 128 of his video's on you tube and there worth a look. He also has a web site Zero Fossil Fuel alternate energy web site I'm half way through building his PWM.
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Heres a link to the man that has inspired me. YouTube - #127 - PWM Etched PC board assembly There are 128 of his video's on you tube and there worth a look. He also has a web site Zero Fossil Fuel alternate energy web site I'm half way through building his PWM.
Ive seen his stuff before and he is one of the most well documented guys on there.
His video count is fairly high and the different number of cells that he has made and posted you easily spend a few days just watching them all.
His aim has been to produce the most gas for the least power and its there for everyone to see and reproduce...

This looks like the best coil setup.
YouTube - Hydroxy Ver 1.7 Double Helix
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